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Picky2k
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Postby Picky2k » Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:30 pm
Can anyone shed any light on why my Discovery 1 would struggle to start when it is extremely cold??
It won't even start when jumping from another vehicle but bump starts fine.
I'm planning on changing the glow plugs, checking (and replacing) the earth strap and if need be investing in a new battery for the winter.
Can anyone think of anything else it might be??
Cheers in advance......James
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bandiflip
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Postby bandiflip » Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:21 pm
Ey up James....Is your glo-plug light working on the dash ??
are you running it on diesel or chip fat ??
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Picky2k
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Postby Picky2k » Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:12 pm
Yeh the light on the dash works fine. Currently running on normal diesel. Cheers fella
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bandiflip
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Postby bandiflip » Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:53 pm
Have ya got power to the plugs when you switch on the ignition ??
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Picky2k
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Postby Picky2k » Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:26 am
Sure do.
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repton
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Postby repton » Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:02 pm
If it won't start with a jump start but will with a bump start then I would be looking at the cables to the starter motor or the starter itself, it sounds like the battery and glow plugs are working fine but there is something up with the starter.
Paul
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kingsonlim
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Postby kingsonlim » Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:15 pm
Similar issue with my disco 1 previously, turned out to be bad contact from cable to starter motor solenoid. Added an an additional ground cable from starter motor mount to chassis, and it helps.
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madcalc
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Postby madcalc » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:04 pm
Check the earth from the starter motor to the chassis. After stripping the wire and cleaning the chassis connector it solved my problem. Also added earth from gearbox to chassis.
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Jabba
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Postby Jabba » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:00 am
I had a starting problem on an old car that was finally traced to the joint in hte positive cable form the battery. Was passing enough current for normal working but was too high resistance for starting current.
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bandiflip
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Postby bandiflip » Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:41 pm
Using your jump leads,connect black to neg on battery and other end of black onto the engine itself and try it then....if its ure earth strap thats at fault it should start OK .....
With you saying you were changing glo plugs i thought it was struggling to start not struggling to turn over.
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Picky2k
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Postby Picky2k » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:36 pm
It tries to turn over for a split second then stops.
I'm going to check all the connections tomo so hopefully will cure it.
I checked power to the glow plugs again and I'm only getting 10v, is this normal or should it be up at 12v?
Appreciating your help with this guys, thanks!!
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bandiflip
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Postby bandiflip » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:51 am
does sound like a bad earth.........check both live connections and earths
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Picky2k
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Postby Picky2k » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:43 pm
Right chaps, I have checked and cleaned all my connections and even added additional earthing and I'm still only getting 10v to the glow plugs. I'm sure this isn't helping matters when cold starting.
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Jabba
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Postby Jabba » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:52 pm
The glow plugs take so much current that I don't think you'll see 12 V there.
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bandiflip
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Postby bandiflip » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:10 pm
To clarify the fault.... Is it struggling to start or struggling to crank over as they are two totally different faults with different ways to check
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